Pop culture obsessives writing for the pop culture obsessed.
Pop culture obsessives writing for the pop culture obsessed.

In the Perry Mason of the ‘50s and ‘60s—and in most “classic TV,” for that matter—audiences rarely, if ever, saw a sympathetic person of color in any sort of role of substance. It’s something Perry Mason’s Chris Chalk said made him not connect with the show growing up, and something he says he’s particularly glad has changed in the new adaptation.

Chalk sat down with us alongside Gayle Rankin and Shea Whigham to talk about why this particular Perry Mason is so 2020, as well as what they’ve been using, media-wise, to get them through the last few difficult months.

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Marah Eakin is the Executive Producer of all A.V. Club Video And Podcasts. She is also a Cleveland native and heiress to the country's largest collection of antique and unique bedpans and urinals.

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